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Welcome to the Fierce Fatty Podcast. I'm your host, Victoria Welsby and this is episode 68. Today, we're talking about Ways You Don't Realise That You still have Diet Culture in Your Life.
I'm Victoria Welsby TEDx speaker, Best Selling Author and fat activist. I have transformed my life from hating my body with desperately low self esteem to being a courageous and confident Fierce Fatty who loves every inch of this jelly. Society teaches us living in a fat body is bad. But what if we spent less time, money and energy on the pursuit of thinness and instead focused on the things that actually matter? Like if pineapple on pizza should be outlawed? Or if the mullet was the greatest haircut of the 20th century? So how do you stop negative beliefs about your fat body controlling your life? It's the Fierce Fatty podcast Let's begin.
Hello, hello, fatty Welcome to this episode number 68. so pleased to have you here. I'm feeling really good today. Because last night was the first night that I slept in my new apartment. And
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I had a little visitor of the dog variety. His name is Dougal, and he is my beloved doggie after being away from him for a month, because of quarantining and moving on all that type of stuff.
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He came back to me, he pity party poured all the way through the streets of Vancouver and found me with the guide of a human.
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And so I was like, okay, he hasn't seen me for a month. And he's like, he's so obsessed with me. He just can't get enough of me.
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You know, adults like, so I presumed he's probably a little bit excited to see me. And so he's going to this new apartment he's never been to, and he hasn't seen me. So he doesn't know that this is where we now live. And so I hid. So on the sofa, I covered myself in a blanket. And as soon as he came in, I have a video of it.
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I just shared it on my Instagram. As soon as he came in, he went run into the couch and started sniffing and
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as soon as I could hear his paws going
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on the floor, I was like
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it was like, No, don't make any noise to find you sooner. And he was sniff he's jumped up on me. And he was like sniffing but he couldn't quite figure out. You know what? Because all these smells the house it was like, going back to his whole Old smells of his old house from two years ago. And so he was like, he's probably thinking, Well, we I recognize these this the smell of this blanket and this sofa and it took him maybe 30 seconds and then he got close to my face. And then in the video you just see his towel furiously wagging as he licks my face aggressively, like so much that his tongue went up my nostril and I was like okay, that's that's that's enough now.
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So it's really really cute to have him back and seen him explore the house being like, huh, this is different, but I kind of recognize smells and having his favorite he's got this is
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his cage, which I it's like a little sanctuary for him. I've never kind of forced him to go into into his cage. Oh, it's like his it's his little bedroom I guess. Although he sleeps in the bed with me but and so he had his cage back which he hadn't had in a couple of years and immediately went in there and started making himself a little bed and
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no, it's pretty cute. So in the middle of the night, though, he woke up I mean, he he managed to get out of the bedroom and was upset with some noises that he was hearing because I live like a block off the main street right and so there's different noises. I think there was an ambulance or something. I don't know. But he was like, I don't like there's noise he doesn't like high pitched noises. Because I in my old apartment, the ceiling was low and anytime that I made anything
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it would the fire alarm would go off. And that's really like their fire. The fire alarm is like scary, right like PvP, and he would always be like fog. And so anytime I would open the oven he do he'd be like No, I don't like this. Nothing to do with my really shit cooking skills. No, it wasn't that I was also burning
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At the same time No, it wasn't that at all it is wasn't exactly.
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Yeah. So let's hope I don't traumatize him with burning shit in my new place. Fingers crossed. So I'm just at my Airbnb now just to grab my the final things. And then given the keys, I'm leaving a week early because I managed to find find an apartment.
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Very sad to go and leave this shirtless picture of the Airbnb host. I have to remember to turn it around. So it's facing forward again, because I'd be really rude if you came in and the picture was just facing the wall, you'd be like, Wow, how do they did they? Did she not masturbate to my picture furiously every single night? No, I didn't. So
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but some people say, oh, you should leave it turned over so that he knows that people don't want to see that shit. But I'll turn it back round. So he thinks I enjoyed it.
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So yeah, life is good. I'm going to be leaving here in a couple of hours and then go back to Dougie and give him giving him a nice cuddle.
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So today, we are talking about the 11 ways, you don't realize that you still have diet culture in your life 11 ways you don't realize that you still have diet culture in your life.
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Now,
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I love this. I love
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I love I love pointing these things out to people and then being like
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Asia, because a lot of people being like, Okay, well, I've stopped dieting. Therefore, you know, I'm not dieting, I'm not doing any of that shit anymore. And, therefore, I'm not surrounded by diet culture. And I don't believe that we should be dieting anymore. And, you know, I'm changing the way that I think and I've got rid of all of that bullshit from my life. Now,
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let me first give you the definition of diet culture. In case you're like, What the fuck is diet culture? Viktoria, don't just start talking about it, because I don't know what it is. Okay, so, diet culture. I did a little googling to get you a definition. So here's a couple for you.
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From Edie rd Pro, I'll link to both of these things I'm going to talk about.
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There's a
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post that says it's time to drop out of diet culture. And it says diet culture is a belief system that focuses on and values weight, shape, and size over well being. Variations of diet culture also include rigid rigid eating patterns that on the surface are in the name of health, but in reality, are about weight, shape or size. So that is from Ed rd Pro. Now, Christy Harrison Christy's definition, I'll link to this as well.
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Her post, which is what is diet, culture.
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And Chrissy says My definition of diet culture, die culture is a system of beliefs that worships fitness and equates it to health and moral virtue, which means you can spend your whole life thinking you're irreparably broken just because you don't look like the impossibly thin, quote unquote, ideal
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promotes weight loss as a means of attaining higher status, which means you feel compelled to spend a massive amount of time, energy and money trying to shrink your body. Even though the research is very clear that almost no one can sustain intentional weight loss for more than a few years, demonizes certain certain ways of eating while elevating others, which means you're forced to be hyper vigilant about your eating, ashamed of making certain food choices and distracted from your pleasure, your purpose and your power.
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oppresses people who don't match up with it supposed picture of quote unquote health disproportionately harms women firms, trans folk, people in larger bodies, people of color, and people with disabilities, damaging both their mental and physical health. So
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chances are, you live in a culture that is also a dark culture.
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Most societies, I don't want to say like every single culture in the world
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values, thin fitness and conquer health in the guise of
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eating in a certain way and moralize as food but
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very, like a large proportion of, of cultures put a value heavy value on that food. moralization, thinner equals healthy. And it's so normal, it's so no more, but it's kind of you can't see it. When you're in diet culture is just well, this is just what it is, you know, this is, of course, it's better to eat this food. Of course, it's better to be healthy. Of course, it's better to be smaller. The, you know, like, of course, but then you be like, well, you know, as long as you're being healthy about it, and, you know, you think, Well, you know, it's balanced, because as long as you do in a balanced way, you know, we're not looking we're not, we're not encouraging people to be unbalanced with it be balanced with your disordered eating patterns, which is, you know, just ridiculous, you know, just a little bit disordered about around food, don't get too disordered, just disordered enough. And that's, that's good with us, says diet culture. We know what diet culture is, we've established you probably live in it. I've looked at all the people in around the world, whether you were people who listened to my podcast, or the different countries.
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And it's more than just one, it's more than just my mom listening in Ireland. Actually, that's a lie. My mum doesn't listen to my podcast, she keeps saying what is a podcast? So not only my mum, MUM listens to this, how rude.
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There's, I don't know, maybe 30 Different countries that listened to this podcast and looking at those. They are all dichotomies. So unless somebody new is listening, hello,
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then you probably live in a diet culture. Now, when we realized, okay, diet, culture is fucked up, dieting sucked up won't make me thin, it's just just makes me sad, and is not working for me anymore. That's it, I'm done with dieting, I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm going to work to try and overcome my fat phobia. And
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I think I'm doing a really good job of not engaging in diet culture. Now, let me go through these 11 ways these 11 common things I see and see if you're doing any of them. You might be like, Goldstar, for me, I'm not doing any of them. And that's cool. That's cool. That's amazing. And also, if you are doing all of them, that's, you know, that's to be expected. Because this stuff is so normalized. It's so and so it's so hard to remove diet culture from your life. If you think that the way that you behave, or the things that you believe or the things that you're doing, are well balanced and normal than why would you need to remove it from your life? Wait, it's, it's just
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a part of living. And sometimes you need someone to kind of shine a light on it and say,
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this is probably not that helpful for your mental health. Okay, so number one is quote, unquote, compensating for eating food, or for eating, quote, unquote, bad food. Do you know what just came up in my head? Thinking about there's one review on iTunes that says, I love the podcast, but it's really, it's really annoying how Victoria keeps saying, quote, unquote, but I guess she has to do it, because she has to
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show that, you know, whatever it was, and I was like, I know, I don't like having to say, quote, unquote, all the time. But you can't see that I'm doing air quotes. And so you might interpret it as that I'm saying there is bad food. And you should be compensating. So I'm sorry to that remembers.
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I kind of know is it anyway.
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So compensating for eating food or eating food that you have decided is bad. So this could look like so you might not
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realize that you're doing this, but you might be like, You know what? I had a larger lunch. And so I'm gonna just have less for dinner. And you're not having less for dinner because your body is like, Oh, I'm satiated and I'm still full from lunch. You're like, I should or you do things like well, you know, I had
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I had something. I did something bad over the weekend I ate I ate a piece of dust. And so now I must run a marathon to compensate for all of that dust and celery juice.
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Do I consumed because I'm bad? And you might not be thinking about it in that very kind of clearly unhelpful way helpful ways of thinking you might just be thinking, feeling guilt being like, yeah, I should, and not noticing that that comes from diet culture, and a dieting way of thinking. Okay, so that's number one, compensating number two, speaking and thinking about food in a disordered way. So things like you're in the office, you remember the days when we were in the office? I think there are some people who are in the office. Currently, back in the olden days, when we're all allowed to congregate around, you know, someone's birthday, and they've got a cake. And there's always that one person or one mustn't, oh,
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oh, only give me a tiny slice, just a slice, which is the thickness of a piece of paper. Just just just the breath of the cake, just waft the, the smell of the cake towards me, and then that'll be enough, or that that's all I want. That's all I want. That's all. That's all I need.
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Or, No, that's, that's extreme, obviously. So you remember like, yeah, I don't do that. But
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saying things like, say if you have a restaurant, you have something or you get a nice juicy hamburger. Whoo, I love I love there's a there's a Beyond Meat, hamburger and a and w. This vegetarian hamburger was so fucking good. Okay, so you eat something and you say, that was so big.
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That was what a huge portion, or when the plate arrives, this is massive. I'm never going to be able to eat all this. And in say, instead of saying it in a kind of observation way. It's, it's a judgment thing.
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I'm never going to eat all of this. And what if you did all of that? What would you be saying about yourself? If you look at the whatever it is, you've got, it's huge. It giant is gargantuan. I couldn't. And then you just happen to be hungry and you ate it or you happen to love it and you ate it.
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And then you feel bad about it.
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Or saying things like, Oh, we're being so naughty. We're being so naughty. I looked, I looked something and I got like, two calories.
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Don't tell anyone. You know that kind of like, it is very bonding. Like, we've been so naughty. Like when you're eating something that you've decided is bad. It's very bonding, isn't it to be like, Oh, we're being naughty together. But are you being naughty? Like it's probably a piece of cake. Like you're not murdering anyone? Are you killing someone?
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Are you like hitting a baby or something? No, you're probably having a piece of birthday cake. Like, chill.
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Okay, so are you still subscribed to diet company emails. And I know that when you're in diet culture, you're probably subscribed to loads of different emails, mailing lists, and subscribe maybe when you're in a dieting group, they just happen to have your you on the email address. Or maybe you're still paying for a dieting membership, and you just haven't canceled it.
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You are supporting diet culture in a massive way, especially if you're paying
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for don't give them any more money, you've already given them too much of your your money, cut them off, get rid of them. And everything that you're subscribed to just go unsubscribe them answers as a scribe the shit out of it, don't read, don't even read it. Some people are like, You know what, I just have it and I just want to read it, you know, just to see what they're up to or whatever.
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And if you're not in a place where you are
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feeling really good and strong and, and whatnot, then that's just gonna lure you back in, you know, especially if you're newer in your journey. Don't even be tempted by stuff like that.
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Really, like I wouldn't subscribe wouldn't subscribe to any type of thing like that, even to get, you know,
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material to talk about because I could be like, oh, you know what I heard about the new diet. And then this is what you do. And this is how silly it is. I wouldn't expose myself to that. And I've been doing this for years. So it's not.
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It's not going to be helpful if you're newer to this. And you're exposed to those types of messages in your email.
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In a box, okay?
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What about being secretly impressed with someone who is thin? Or,
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you know, muscular or
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have done, you know, lots of things that are healthiest? Or who someone who's like, I've only inorganic and I'm only in this and that and this only in like,
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grains. I don't even fucking know. I never know what they get up to nowadays. I'm so out of it. But you know, they're doing someone's doing things like this and you're like, Oh, that is that's really good that they're doing that. And, you know, they're not they're not doing that, because they're into health that really into being healthiest, and dieting and all that type of bullshit. And how do you feel when you see
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fat people engaging in things which you have decided are unhealthy or bad?
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How does Are you having those judgments?
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Are you think about if you are still doing this, if you still have access to like before and after pictures, on your social media, get rid of that shit? But how are you feeling when you see a smaller body like the before and afters? How are you feeling when you see that? That that bigger body? Are you secretly in your head being like, yeah, that smaller body person is more desirable, is more attractive, is better, is probably healthier, all that type of stuff, and saying all that, that the person with a bigger body, if it's even if it's the same person looks like they're probably really sad, and they're just they're probably a bit of a loser. And they're probably
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eating loads of food and you know, whatever judgment that you're having.
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And yeah, if your social media has got before and after pictures, get rid of that blog block, get rid of the dough. Dough is not good, though. So next, we're on number five, number five of 11. You say? What you think it's not about being thin? It's about being healthy? Well, this is a big one. This is a big one. This is this, this is you know, the way that companies get into your brain nowadays, because they have to be smart, because people are figuring out their bullshit. And so they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, it's not. It's not about making you thin. It's about making you healthy. By really restricting how much food you're allowed and making you obsess about your body and making you over exercise and stuff. It's about your health. It's about your health.
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Yes, even though we're fucking with your health and fagging with your mental health, yeah, it's about your habit that you have that very health. Yeah. And so you're like, Okay, well, it's, you know, I do I do secretly want to be thin. And, yes, I'm working on that. But really,
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for me, it's about being healthy. And that is that is problematic on many different ways, like this other wrong with wanting to be healthy. But there's so much tied up within that.
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I've done episodes on help ism before but
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what is health? Is his health an end destination? Can you arrive at being healthy and then that's it, that's it, you're done.
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are healthy people more valuable than unhealthy people.
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It's ableist. Not everyone can be quote, unquote, healthy, whatever that is.
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The way that we view health in our society, it's very looking at your body versus your brain, and your mental health and how focusing so much on your physical health can be very detrimental towards your mental health. And so that is all wrapped up in diet culture, the nice style culture Bo, and his diet culture and so you move away from your goal being I just want to look sexy, and you're kind of like that secretly, like secretly I want to get thin and sexy, but I won't I won't tell anyone that No, no, no, I'm moving away from that. And you are you are, you're genuinely are really, it's kind of like a deep dark, you know, I do want to be thin and sexy.
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And you're moving more towards I want to be healthy as well because it's it's way more palatable to people.
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For everyone, the person saying it and those around the person saying I just want to be healthy, it's a lot more palatable, versus especially if you're fat person. If you say you know, I'm not
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I'm going to be dieting anymore because I want to focus on my health, versus I'm not dieting anymore because it's problematic and it doesn't work. And I'm going to focus on feeling better about myself, because then people are like, but what about your how you're going to spontaneously combust.
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So it's easy, it's a lot easier to be like, you know, talking about health, but talking about that and pushing that, we just need to be healthy, or we just want to be fit and, and you can like, that's great. Like, if you do want to be healthy and fit, but you need to also examine war is wrapped up in those sentiments, and the way that you're talking about it, is it harming you? Is it harming others?
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And a lot of times it is, you know, because it's kind of like, you know, no pay no gain. And what is it sweat is just your fat crying or you know, that shit like that, that kind of toxic.
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Just push through and just keep keep working and just, you know, do anything to become healthy, even if it damages your health.
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I roles.
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Okay, so, next number six, restricting what you eat because of what you think others will think. Or eating more food when you're alone.
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So this is this is this is this is diet culture, right? Because,
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but it's so complicated. It doesn't mean you're bad if you do this, but it's still kind of buying into diet culture that
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what you're eating is not, quote unquote, acceptable? Or good? Would you feel more comfortable if you ate something that you think is good? In front of others? Are you ashamed for eating things that you think are less nutrient rich in front of others? Is there a way for you to work on that, so that you can be
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be yourself and not buy into these lies that diet culture have have taught us that, you know, it's inappropriate for a fat person to be out in public eating a doughnut or whatever.
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And, and also recognizing that other layer of
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fat phobia and that it is hard to be a fat person out in the public in a donor because you are going to have people judging.
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But we're kind of dismantling that and deciding, you know, is it a Am I being am i doing a micro activism? And today, am I going to do a micro activism by sitting in the lunchroom and just eating my lunch? Whatever it is that you've got for lunch?
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Or am I bad? Am I bad, therefore, I should eat this food. And with no one watching me, because I'm bad to eat that food, you're not bad, because you're eating that food.
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Obviously, and there is no bad food. Well, there is bad food, you know, food that might kill you or poison you or make you sick or you know, ladapo ship.
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So next,
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number seven, tracking yourself. So tracking calories, which is an obvious one, but also tracking, you know, Fitbits.
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And those health apps that you have in your phone, like my iPhone, it has like a health thing. I'm like, get rid of that shit, I think you can't delete and so I all the apps that you can't delete, I put it in a folder of like, don't need apps.
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Because you might be like, well, it's just interesting to see how many steps and I just want to see, you know, it's important for me to take X amount of steps a day. Now, there are a lot of times where you can be doing that and it can just be in not disordered. But more often than not
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when you're monitoring yourself in that way. It is not helpful
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and it is contributing towards your you judging your productivity on I was really lazy today I only did X amount of steps.
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Were you were you were you lazy. Were you like really busy doing something else? Or were you taking some very well deserved and needed rest. You know, it's like encouraging you is if it's like making you into a machine. You know, we need to see like if we're driving a car we need to we need all these gauges and share to monitor how the car is behaving. But you're not a machine.
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And you know if you're doing if you
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have like your Fitbit or health tracking or whatever. And it's and you can recognize that it's not disordered, then you know, knock yourself out, do what you want. But more often than not, it is not helpful when you're trying to get rid of diet culture from your life. And if you're, you're tracking of food, unless there's an actual reason, like, I don't know, you're you're testing, you might be allergic to something. And so you're tracking food to see how it makes you feel. But if you're tracking your food
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in a way that that you know, is making you feel uncomfortable, or judging yourself, then you if you can, and you need to stop doing that. Number eight,
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we touched on this thinking that there are good and bad foods. Now this is very difficult to get out of very difficult,
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very difficult to get out of.
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Because there are foods that have lots of juicy
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things in it that your body needs.
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And there are foods that
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make us feel great when we then make our body feel great. And there's foods that make our body and brain feel gray and those foods that make our brain just just our brain feel great. There's foods that remind us of happy times with our families, there's foods that feels
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feel like a celebration, you know,
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foods
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food is is complicated. And there's no kind of one food which is like okay, now versus the bad food and it'll all the times people make up in their head because not every everyone's different it always slightly, like what you've decided is bad. And one person will be like, Oh, I think that's really bad. And another person I'm like, well, oh, I think this one's really bad. And it's kind of like we've been influenced in some way because someone has told us like, Oh, that was really bad. And
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it's something that you've kind of decided, and obviously there's there's foods that society you know, says Oh, you must be more of this than that.
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But recognizing that food has so many different things about it that makes it
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desirable and good and fun, and helpful and
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healing and comforting. And, and it's not black and white. So it's that black and white thinking that is very diet culture.
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Okay, so
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number nine, you do something else to stop yourself from eating or thinking about food.
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So you feel like I might be I might be getting hungry, so I'm just gonna have a big glass of water or, or I'm just gonna go and do something else. And because it's so kind of drummed into you from diet culture that
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you can't be hungry. You ate 17 hours ago. How can you be hungry? Again? Why you thought grainy? Oh, you ate like, six weeks ago? Huh?
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So, it's so confusing. When we're hungry. Especially when you're recovering from this stuff. Your body is just like, fucking Yes. Give me the food. Jesus. Finally, this has been years there's been he has not been feeding me now. Give it to me. And so it can be really kind of like, what? Why? Why are you telling me you're hungry? You're not hungry. Listen to me. We ate X, you know, X amount of hours ago. You can't be hungry now. And you what is like your thing? I am hungry. Give me some food motherfucker. And you're like, maybe some water. Maybe you're thirsty because like I had I read somewhere that if you're if you're hungry, it might be that you're just thirsty as bullshit by the way.
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Yeah, so eat something. And the I remember experiencing this firsthand and
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I told this story before the podcast, being out work and in the afternoon getting this strange feeling in my stomach. And to the point where I was like, You know what, I need to go to the doctors because I getting this ache in my stomach in the afternoon.
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I remember saying to my boyfriend.
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There's something wrong with I think I'm going to go to the doctor because this has been going on for ages.
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This ache in my stomach, what is wrong with me? And he said to me, have you tried eating something?
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And I was like,
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oh, it's fucking clown eating something. I had just had lunch at lunchtime. I couldn't possibly be hungry. Next time I'm allowed to eat his dinner time.
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Silly, silly guy. And so then anyway, I decided, You know what, I'm going to try it out. Eat something a little bit. You know, I couldn't possibly, you know,
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easily a lot. But eat something. Oh, the feeling went away. Surprise. Fucking surprise. It was I was hungry. But I was so kind of detached from that feeling and in denial that my body could possibly need or want.
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And all snacky snack. A little snack stir for the afternoon.
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Because diet culture was in my brain so much so. And if someone said at the time, like
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a how much diet culture do you have in your life? i Well, I'm not dieting. No. None. While I'm like, I need to go to the doctor. There's something wrong with my stomach.
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I'm googling WebMD. Yeah, yeah, looks like I'm Yep. Definitely dying. Dying. Definitely dying. No.
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So yeah.
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ignoring those kind of hunger, hunger cues. Feed yourself. Give yourself some food. Eat some food. Yes. Okay, number 10.
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You detox.
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You detox and no, not detox from ripples, drag race, detox as in deciding that your body needs a break from all of these toxins in our environment, that your liver and kidneys can't seem to handle
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that sarcasm there. Your liver and kidneys do all the detoxing that you ever need. And so things like detoxes or
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juice cleanses and things like that. That's diet culture. That's diet culture. It's bullshit. It's just it's just bullshit. There's no no scientific evidence to show that you need to detox. Or there's any benefits. Like some people are like, Oh, I detox and, you know, I felt high and I felt really good. And, and
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you know, your body starving, and sometimes you get like a high from, you know, the adrenaline and whatnot of having no food. And, and then, oh, and then when I ate again, I didn't feel so good. Yeah. Because your body's probably like, oh my god, like, I don't know how to handle this food that's coming into my stomach. It feels so much. You know?
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Yeah, so if you're doing things like that, then that is via culture.
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A culture in your brain. Okay, number 11. You believe that fat people are fat because they ate too much food and didn't exercise enough. And that thin people probably did the opposite, then people probably only eat
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and exercise
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17 hours, every hour, how people are fat for so many different reasons. Like literally hundreds. There's a report that came out that had all of the different reasons that fat people are fat. It was a lot, obviously, like obviously, obviously, well, not obviously because a lot of people were like, well, I found people are fat because they are a horrible human beings. Because they should you know they're lazy or whatever it is, you know? fatphobia so
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are you still kind of looking at Fat people and being like,
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well, even looking if you have a fat body
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or seeing a fat person eating food and being like,
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should they really be doing?
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So acquainting health and fitness and this is probably like deep dark shit in the in your head that you're not voicing, like, you wouldn't come up to a fat person and be like yo fe, because you're a good person, right? But in the deep, deep, dark depths of your brain, you're like, well, like kind of raw really fat, you know? So, you know, you're still kind of uncovering stuff that is diet culture, and fat phobia, obviously, but
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it's not good shit,
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and all of this stuff. Okay, so all of this stuff.
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If it's going to take time me going going over these 11 things
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there is there is like probably 11 eleventy billion things, probably probably that's not an accurate number eleventy billion. But so many ways, so many ways. These are like common ones that, that I've seen, but there are so many ways that, like culture will be in your life. And
Unknown Speaker 40:28
yeah, so you're, you're with these 11 things, there might be a couple here that you're like, oh, shit, yeah, I do that. Or I do like a version of that. And I'm gonna try and stop doing that. But there are also so many other things, and ways of thinking and ways of behavior that is contributing towards
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continuing this diet culture, and supporting diet culture, and you're just not aware of it. You know? And so it's not like, you know, it's not like you're rubbing your hands together being like, you know, I'm gonna be a real fucking diet culture daycare today. Oh, that'd be it should be something on a t shirt. diet culture decade.
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Fuck off diet culture decade. I'm not interested in your bowl ship today.
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So, yeah, so you're not like,
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login. Shit. You we don't realize we don't realize when we are doing and saying things which are contributing towards the oppression of ourselves or others.
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And so sometimes, a lot of times, you need someone to point it out for you to be able to go.
Unknown Speaker 41:47
Whether that be through listening to a podcast, or reading stuff, or
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watching stuff, I was like, what are the ways to people,
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they listen to podcasts, and they read shit.
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There's lots of different ways or doing something like Facebook Academy,
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where you're able to really have someone hold up a mirror for you to be like, Oh, yeah. And also, oh, yeah, I'm amazing. No, no, because you're so if you're working on this stuff, and you're working on trying to get diet culture out of your life, fuck yeah, you're you're fucking awesome. You're amazing.
Unknown Speaker 42:27
If I meet people, and they tell me, you know, outside of, you know, professionally like clients and stuff. If I'm just walking in the street, and I meet someone who is who is anti diet, who is who understands this stuff, I literally will do a shit with excitement because it's so
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uncommon
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for someone to get to that place. It's so common for people to be in diet culture. So just big kudos to you big fatty, high fives for you getting there.
Unknown Speaker 43:02
So, yeah, let me do that. Let me read out that 11 real quick. So compensating for eating food or eating quote unquote bad food. That's number one. Number two, speaking and thinking about food in a disordered way. Why shouldn't we so naughty. Number three, being subscribed to company emails or still paying them or following accounts that are quote unquote, health and fitness. Number four, you're impressed when you see inspirational bodies
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and feel unimpressed when you see fat body so before and after pictures. You say it's not about being thin, it's about being healthy. That is number five. Number six, restricting what you eat because of what others will think. Number seven, tracking yourself. Number eight, thinking that there aren't good and bad foods. Number nine.
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You do stuff to stop yourself from thinking about food or ignoring hunger signals number 10. You detox number 11 You believe that people are fat because they eat too much food and don't exercise.
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And that's the only reason someone is fat. And that's the only reason that someone is fit and then because they do that opposite stuff.
Unknown Speaker 44:19
Yeah. Another great thing about what how I'm feeling today is that
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I got to choose a new Wi Fi name.
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In my new apartment, as I've been waiting for this day to come. My last Wi Fi was called pretty fly for a Wi Fi.
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That was my old Wi Fi.
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My new Wi Fi I was like, You know what, I'm going to do an Arrested Development inspired Wi Fi name. So this is like you know when you're joining a Wi Fi but like what's your Wi Fi name and it'd be like, Mary's Wi Fi, 5g
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or whatever.
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And so I live in like the Gay Village here in Vancouver and the Wi Fi, everyone's Wi Fi. So like really pretty funny, you know, like, unicorn orgy and
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I can't remember the state of the rest of them in my building, but I was like, Yeah, this is cool people here. Anyway, so I said, you know, I'm okay, I'm going to do a rest and the rest of development, which is a TV show, if you're not seeing it, it's really good. It's really good. It's really good. And so my new Wi Fi I was going to do banana stand I was going to do there's always money in the banana stand, but that's too long and so then I was like, I'm gonna do banana stand but then I was like, You know what? No. And then I was gonna do
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them one of my most favorite lines is how much can a how much can a banana be $10 That's too long to go down. But I don't remember but Tobias Tobias from KY
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he gets a new license plate, a custom license plate to celebrate the New START that he has in his life. And so, he got a custom plate saying a new start. Spelt A n u.
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Sta, RT, a new start. But when you read it, it reads a N U S. Enos T A R T. Tart anus tart. But it also can be read as a new stir Hanzo Yes, so that is my, my wave I is a anus tart. And as me I am a big anus toughts whatever that is. Yeah. So um, yeah. If you want any Wi Fi inspiration, there you go. Just be an anus start. Just be a happy miscellaneous tart. And life will be good.
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Okay, thank you for hanging out with me today on this podcast. It's been a slice. And
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and what and what and what and the law and
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I will see you in the next episode. Have a wonderful rest of your day. Goodbye 30
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