Episode 190 Transcript
SUMMARY:
Vinny Welsby's Introduction and Podcast Setup 30:00
Vinny's Recent Health Appointments 32:07
Challenges with Healthcare and Body Image 39:52
The Unlearning Fat Phobia and Body Hate Journey 43:14
Body Positivity and Weight Loss 47:02
Rules and Beliefs in the Fierce Fatty Friends Group 50:12
Health and Weight Loss Statistics 54:52
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Vinny Welsby 30:00
You're listening to the Fierce Fatty Podcast, episode 77 being fat and unhealthy. Is it true that if you really loved yourself, you'd lose weight? Hmm, question mark, let's do it.
Unknown Speaker 30:22
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Vinny Welsby 30:25
I'm Victoria welsby TEDx speaker, best selling, author and fat activist. I have transformed my life from hating my body with desperately low self esteem to being a courageous and confident, fierce fatty who loves every inch of this jelly society teaches us, living in a fat body is bad, but what if we spent less time, money and energy on the pursuit of thinness and instead focused on the things that actually matter, like if pineapple on pizza should be outlawed, or if the mullet was the greatest haircut of the 20th century. So how do you stop negative beliefs about your fat body controlling your life? It's the fierce fatty podcast. Let's begin. You someone is outside, cleaning something, power washing something, so hopefully you can't hear that noise too much. And welcome to this episode, 70. Someone two swans, a swimming isn't that seven? Is this one the swimming or is that? Yeah, two swans, a swimming. Bingo. Galling. Can't wait till we get to 88 to fat lady Sir, do you do that in North America with bingo? Do you have the legs 11 doors next door? I don't even know that as well, but whatever. Yeah. So how's life? Well, Shark a question. Why are you not responding rude? I'll ask you a question. How are y'all Well, I'm fine. Thank you. Thanks for asking. This week, I've been quite busy getting poked and prodded with things. I got a vaccination, not covid, so sad, so sad about it, but the HPV vaccination I got, I got the first one, like, years ago, and I Something must have happened in my brain where I just was like, don't understand, because I only got one when you have three. And I was like, I think, I think I've done it. But then I realized that I actually need three, so I'm starting again with the thing takes six months to get all three. So anyway, I got my HPV vaccine, the first of three, and then I got my yearly physical at the doctor. Well, I, I called, and I was like, I need to get a, I need to get a PAP booked in. A pap in in the UK is called a smear, smear test, which is the worst word smear like, come on now, pap is better, because pap is, I don't even know what pap stands for, but it sounds better than smear. Um, yeah. So the guy was like, Oh, do you want to get your yearly physical done? And I was like, I've never had a yearly physical before, so let's do it. I don't really know what is involved. Turns out it's just exactly what happens when I go to the doctor anyway, because I have hypothyroidism and low iron and things like that. I get my blood work taken all the time, so it's just like, getting your blood pressure. And because I'm on the pill, I get my blood pressure taken anyway, getting your blood work and your blood pressure. And then he was like, Well, part of the physical, I need to know your height and your weight. And I was like, No, thank you. I can tell you what my height is. And he's like, Yeah, we need to know your weight as well. And I was like, No thank you. And he's like, Oh, it's a part of the physical. And I was like, No, thank you. And he's like, Okay, I said, I'm five seven. He's like, read it on his piece of paper and then walked away. And I was like, that's the first time in that's the first time, have I got doctors? Yeah, that's the first time I've had to say no thank you to being away. So that's what the yearly physical is, is, I guess, being weighed. And so I had it in my head, oh, they might ask to weigh me. And I thought, am I going to educate them in the moment? And I thought, I'll see how it goes. Because if he was like but we need it, I would say I have a history of disordered eating and an eating disorder, and weighing me would be bad for my mental health. And then if, if they pressed anymore, I would say health. Weight is not an indicator of health. If I need to, if we need my weight to calculate medication doses, dosages, then that is absolutely fine. But as a general screening, it's not. Necessary. So I had that all prepared. And then I went and got and then I went and got my blood pressure, and my heart was beating because of that. And listen, I do this. This is my job, right? Talking about this stuff and having a very pleasant No, thank you. I had to say, No, thank you twice, a very pleasant No, thank you. And then he just said, okay, and then walked away. That caused my heart to start beating. And so then when I got my blood pressure done, one of the numbers was too high, and I was just about to get my pap, and she's under and she's like, Oh, that that other number is a bit high. And I said, it, could it be due to stress? And she's like, well, yes, you are sat on the bed with no clothes and just a paper gown, about to have a pat so yeah. And I was thinking, yeah, and I also had to deny being weighed, and I didn't know how the doctor was going to act. I didn't know if the doctor was going to, you know, kick down the door to the exam room for like, Bitch, give us your weight. Why are you telling us your weight? Get out, you know. So my heart was just being faster than normal. And so anyway, so I have to go back in a couple of weeks to get my blood pressure taken again, because hopefully I won't be as stressed. I could just feel my heart beating. And I was like, Victoria, your heart's beating fast right now because you're feeling stressed. So I want you to take some deep breaths and relax, because it's going to make the blood pressure reading go off. And then my brain was like, Oh, you want me to relax? I'll show you fucking relax, doing the opposite. So yeah, but I've had that before where I've had to go back and because I've been stressed going into the doctors, and so I want to extend massive empathy for those of you who are doing this stuff at the doctors, going and deny and say no thank you to being weighed because it's it's difficult, and it's kind of sometimes it might be better for your mental health just to be like, I'll be way. But don't tell me the weight, because that act of saying no is stressful. So anyway, so I've got my, I've got my my pap. If you've not got a PAP and you own a uterus, then I suggest you go in. It's, it's not a big deal. I was watching videos last night, even though I had my pap, like a week ago. I was watching videos about the procedure and shit like that, because I was like, I just want to know more. And because you when, when you go in, well, when I've gone in, I've had maybe five, perhaps six, perhaps in my life, you don't, you just, you just do the thing, and you don't see all the magical equipment that they use, not that there's loads of equipment, but it's pretty easy, like in and out, like this woman did it on, filmed her getting hers, and it took 44 seconds for them to Perform the whole procedure. So it's not that that big a deal, really, but it can be very, very stressful for people, and a lot of people don't go in because of that fear. And I really want to encourage you to go if you have a uterus, if you haven't already, because it's really good at preventing bad shit from happening 10 years ago, I got I had a pap, and it was I had an abnormal, abnormal results, and I had precancerous cells, and they just had to watch it, and it went away, which was cool, but sometimes, And that was, I was age 26 when that happened. And in the UK, you get your first pap at 25 I don't know about the rest of the world, but, but still, just because you're young, or if you've had the HPV vaccine, it doesn't mean that you're not at risk of, you know, an abnormal result. And the HPV vaccine, I learned now, it protects you from nine strains of HPV, and there's actually 90 strains, but the nine strains they protect you from are the most dangerous, the most the highest risk to cause cancer and other things that you don't want, but they're still even if you have the HPV vaccine, some people apparently think, oh, because I've had the vaccine, I can't get cervical cancer. And that ain't true. So anyway, it's fine, like, Do you know what it's like? It's like, it's like getting the covid test. Someone's sticking something like, deep inside that you're like, I don't like this. It's kind of uncomfortable, but it's done in a second and, oh, I didn't Whoa. That felt weird. You know, kind of like that. It'd be like, if someone put their finger in your ear and you'd be like, Oh, I just don't like that. It doesn't feel. Good, but I you know, and obviously everyone's has a different reaction anyway. So I also was at the doctors, because I am in the process, been in the process for the last year of seeking criminal compensation for my sexual assault and abuse at the hands of my ex partner now in the UK, if you're a victim of of a violent crime, I think has to be a violent crime. Maybe just a crime. No, no, I think a violent crime. If you're a victim of violent crime, you the the UK government, the government give you compensation. I never knew this, and so I was like, Oh, if that's so, I'm going to apply to get compensation. But because it's been more than a few years since I made my last report to the police, because I went back to the UK to report that he had raped me, and that was maybe 567, years ago. And so from that date, I had, I think it was a couple of years to make the report. And so now I'm having to demonstrate that, I couldn't, at the time, make the report, and I had to do that through my doctor's record, and it's and so I got all my doctor's records from just from one doctor. I need to get them from another doctor. And I was reading through so interesting. So some of the things that they write, I'm, like, what? Like, one of the reports, it said she is dressed. Well, like, what the fuck has that got to do anything that I'm I'm dressed? Well, this is weird. That's so weird to read that anyway. And so I'm reading all my things. And there was this one thing, I'm like, giving you all of my medical history right now in this episode, I'm like, so when I was seven, so I had had, I have IBS, right? And in the process of diagnosing my IBS, I had to go to gastroenterologist. And I was reading all the letters that gastroenterologist wrote to my GP, and she was saying things like, Oh, I've told Victoria to not eat this, and we've tried this diet and that diet, and she's vegan. At the time I was vegan, and she does everything I tell her, and there's no change to her symptoms. And so we've put the tube up a bum and in our mouth, you know? Well, that's good. What? What's that called? What is that called? Anyway, tube at the bum, at the mouth, and put the camera, they have a look, endoscope, something like that. Anyway, um, tube up the bum, in the mouth, had a look, took some biopsies, see if there's anything wrong in there. No, there's nothing. So conclusion, lose some weight. I was like, and the last thing, the last thing is, you know, she's done all of these things. We've done, all these investigations. I told Victoria to lose weight, and I don't remember this. So obviously that part of it didn't traumatize for me. I remember the after effects like I remember at that time I was dieting. Now I'm like, now I realize why? Because obviously she said that you have to lose weight. And you know, I was doing lots of weeks where I was, like, not eating this and not eating that, and blah, blah, and like, now I'm reading it. I'm like, I'm so mad because at the time I was Fuck, I done everything like they could. They don't know what it is, so they've done all these investigations. And so they're just like, Hmm, try not being fat. How about that? And as well, I was, I was, I was pretty small. I was, like, a small fat at the time, still fat, but it's like, What? What? Why? Whatever. What. What evidence you're a specialist in this area, and all you can say is, do this is to lose weight. What has that got to do with anything like, oh, just moment mad, and it's so unethical, like, lose weight. Oh, okay. How do you do that then? Oh, no. Study ever once produced in the history of the world that shows any method of weight loss is effective for only a small portion of people. So, so yeah. So all this has got me thinking. All this has got me thinking about our journeys into loving and accepting our bodies. And the health thing is such a big sticky thing, such a big sticky thing, and I see it time and time again. People are not able to accept their bodies because of something that's going on with their health or how they feel in their body, and they say, Well, I can't really go all in with loving my body, because I still want to lose weight. I shared something on Instagram. I made a an image. I'll link to it in the show notes, and it's and it's the unlearning fat. Phobia and body hate journey. So I shared that a little, sort of six steps of what it is. Let me read out the steps, and you can, you can think in your brain where you're at and how, how this is connected to what we're talking to today. So the unlearning fat phobia and body hate journey. Number one, step one, believe most, if not all, fat bodies are unhealthy, unattractive, unworthy. Number two, catalyst, slash event, which reveals body hate isn't sustainable. Begin to explore fat politics, slash weight science. Number three, step three, intellectually understands that fat people can be healthy, attractive and worthy. Still hold some problematic beliefs. Number Four finds lots of fat people attractive, but not their own fat body, letting go of healthism. Number five begins to appreciate like or even love their own fat body, and number six understand and embody the reality that the issue was never to do with fatness, but with power and oppression. So a lot of people get stuck at number three. And number four, which is intellectually understands fat people can be healthy, attractive and worthy, still holds problematic beliefs. And number four finds lots of fat people attractive, but not their own fat body, beginning to let go of healthism. So healthism, and then the other problematic beliefs, is, is, is, is a lot of what I'm talking about here is the the idea that it's okay to love your body, but I can't love my body because XYZ, and a lot of times that XYZ is because I just don't like the way it feels to be fat, and I need to lose weight because something, some reason, my health condition or whatever. And this is really highlighted. So I have a Facebook group, a private Facebook group. It's called fierce fatty friends. You can find the link in the show notes to join. And I share lots of different things in there. And one of the things I shared is a quote from a longer blog post, and the quote is, intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity. So that was a quote, and then underneath is a whole kind of what does that mean? Exactly. So again, it's intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity. So in a nutshell, what I'm talking about there is body positivity is a political movement created to uplift fat people, increase fat rights and visibility and all that type of stuff. And intentionally losing weight means that you buy into the idea that one, there is a weight, there is a diet that works, two, that you will gain health by losing weight, and that instead of trying to become more healthy at the weight you are three, you're in the act of erasing a fat body and four. It's just It's got nothing to do with body positivity. Like, hey, we have a political movement that says it's okay to be fair, and we should uplift fat people. And losing weight is, which is, is the opposite. It's just the opposite. It's the opposite. It's like, say, if you're in a I love corn flakes club, okay, I love corn flakes club. And then when you go home, you're like, Yeah, I'm the number one member of the I love corn flakes club, you're out campaigning to remove corn flakes from the world and and you hate corn flakes yourself, and you refuse to have corn flakes in your house, and you think they're disgusting. Well, what? They're just zebra things. Just go to the you know, I love cereal club, if you're a serial fan, but you hate cornflakes that you know, it's just, you know, it's just not the right thing. Because a lot of people think, because of how a lot of people portray body positivity, a lot of people think body positivity is loving your body, loving your body and body positivity are two separate concepts. You can love your body and not be positive. Body Positive. You can be body positive and not love your body. They're two separate things. Body Positive is a political movement, and it's all about the rights of fat people marginalized bodies, and loving your body is about loving your body. So anyway, I put this quote, intentionally losing weight is the opposite of body positivity, and. And and by the way, the word intentionally is important there as well, because sometimes our bodies, we lose weight, we gain weight. You know, it's just what our bodies does, but it's when we are being like, right? I need to become thin and going on a diet. Okay? So a lot of people said, I don't agree with this, because if you really loved yourself, you'd lose weight. And I was like, that's the brakes button on there. And I was like, What the fuck. How are these people in my group? And also, okay, I need to lay some ground rules here. And also, this is interesting, because people are stumbling at this, yeah, I love myself. That's why I want to lose weight, because I love myself. Fucking diet culture, bullshit, motherfuckers, companies, co opting this. Well, if you love yourself, your body positive so you want to lose no no no no, no.
Well, I guess you know some, I mean, some people that is true, right? If you loved yourself, I love myself, so I'm going to lose weight. And I, you know, I say is true with like, a big kind of like, is really comes from a lot of like dieting. Just comes from a lot of negative self hating, fat, hating, oppression, bullshit. So is it coming from a place of light and love and fairies and flowers. I don't think so. So anyway, so I had to write a post. I had to, I wanted to write a post to pin at the top of the group so that whenever people come in, because sometimes people come in and they've and I always presume everyone's listened to the podcast, everyone has been on my Instagram. Everyone knows who I am, and they come into the group. But there could be people, and I have screening questions. I have screening questions to get in. There could be people that have just seen me two minutes ago, and they presume, oh, this is a weight loss group or or, or some I don't know. They just, they don't know what I'm about. And so I've pinned a post at the top of the group to make sure that everyone's in agreeance. And if you're not, I don't want you in the group, because I don't want any we have rules in the group, like you can't use the O words, you can't talk about how you're a fat piece of shit, and you know, you can't say things to hurt others and all sorts of different rules, but not like 1000 rules, but basically, don't be a dick and hurt other people. But anyway, so this is a post I want to clarify the beliefs of this group so that we're all on the same page. First one, there is no reliable way to lose weight. Not one single study has ever been published to show any way to reduce our size for any more than a tiny percentage of people long term if you want to lose weight for quote, unquote, health reasons, this doesn't mean weight loss will magically work for you. Next one, saying it's okay to be fat as long as you're healthy, is problematic. This is healthism and playing into the quote, unquote, good fatty trope. Next the O words, and I've written out what they are in and sense of them. The O words are slurs. If you use if you use if you use them in the group, then you must censor them, like I have here. And then next one is, health is a social construct. It is a very complicated issue, and there are many factors that make up someone's quote, unquote health status, including things like access to health care, associated economic status, race, education level, amount of weight stigma, experience, etc. Next, straight sized people can get the same health issues as fat people, seeing as we know weight loss doesn't work. Then seeking to improve health issues outside of focusing on weight is probably going to have the most helpful outcome. If you have issues with any of the verb, then this is probably not the right place for you. I will not tolerate the continued conflation of weight and health. Example, I love myself, therefore I'm going to lose weight to be healthy. The idea that you have to be healthy to be a quote, unquote, good fatty, the use of uncensored o words, moralizing health. Not everyone can be healthy. Not everyone wants to be healthy. Some people really like focusing on improving their health. Some people want to focus on proving their mental health. All of these are morally equal. Again. If you have issues with any of the above, then this is probably not the right place for you. So the reason why. I'm telling you all this is, is to kind of untangle that, that that health thing, that health thing, I'm not going to tell you what to do with your body. Sometimes people need to do that one last diet to prove to themselves that, yeah, dieting is not the right path for me, or they could be in that tiny percentage that is like, loses weight and has no real effects and runs off into the sunset in the arms of their hunky lover. You know, who knows, chances are is going to be the first unfortunately, and then you can run into the arms of this, into the arms of your hunky lover, into a sunset as a fat person, or as a person who doesn't diet. So in some ways that you know, going on a diet could be helpful for some people, because it could get them to a place where they're like, Okay, well, I'm gonna try and work out how to overcome how I'm feeling, but it's a risky thing to partake in. And if we can get you to a place where you don't potentially have to harm your physical and mental health to understand diets is diets of bullshit, then that is probably the better route. But you know, sometimes people just got to learn, right? And so when people are like, No, I just need to die. I'm just like, go, go for it. You know, if that's, if that's what you feel like you need to do, then maybe it is. You know, you you do what you want with your body. But also, if you're interested here, here are some other things to consider. So, some things I want to consider about this idea, if you loved yourself, then you would go on a diet, or, you know it. I, you know that stumbling block, block of but I, I want to lose weight for for this quote, unquote good reason, I don't want to lose weight because I want to look sexy. I want to lose weight because I want to run around with my kids and and I want to be able to touch my toes and tie my shoelaces, and I want to improve this health condition that I'm living with. And if you want to be healthy, like great, of course, many people do. Many people want to live a long and happy life, and that's a normal desire that doesn't make some you know, if that is you, that doesn't make you morally superior, if that's not you, that doesn't make you morally inferior. And also, as I mentioned in that post, not everyone can be healthy. That's first thing. If you want to be healthy, that's normal. And the second thing is, it's not your fault if you have a fat body and if you're unhealthy, it's not something that you need to blame yourself for either. The shame that you're feeling can have dramatic negative effects on your physical and mental health. So all of that shame we just need to work on. Get rid of get getting rid of it because it's not helpful. Number three, no matter the reason for wanting to lose weight, your body responds the same way. So it's not like your body is like, Huh? Well, finally, this bitch is doing a diet because she wants to be healthy, because she wants to run a marathon, because she wants to whatever. Well, now I'm gonna listen to her, and I'm gonna become really thin and healthy and woo. She's finally got the memo, not like before she was trying to lose weight because she wanted to be sexy for her husband. But your body doesn't your body. Unfortunately, our bodies are really fucking smart, but you know, it's not going to be like, Oh, well, this time the restriction, the restriction is all about loving yourself. In that case, I'm just going to go against everything that I want to do in live. This is your body talking and become really thin. Your body doesn't know doesn't matter. It. The stats are the same. 95 to 98% of people don't succeed at diets. There's no evidence to show that we can make our body smaller in the long term, and the maximum, maximum efficacy rate of a diet is 5% so imagine if your doctor gave you a pill and said, hey, hey, take these pills, there are some, you know, potentially deadly side effects. Don't worry about those, because there's a 5% chance you might temporarily lose a 5% chance Max, but you know, you could be actually two out of three people end up fatter after taking the pill. But there's a 5% chance you might lose weight. But two out of three people actually put on more weight after the pill. Two out of three, yeah, yeah, that's 66% of people. 66% of people, but there's a 5% chance people like, Excuse me, my mother. No. Thank you. And depending on your size, the bigger you are, for bigger people, for the fatter people, there's a nought point, not 8% chance for a bigger person to become smaller long term. So if you are fatter, the chances of you becoming smaller, slim. Pun there, but I didn't mean to do it. It's not, it's not likely. And if you do diet, then chances are two out of three people will be bigger than they started out. And 90% of people display 90%
of people who are on a diet display symptoms of an eating disorder while on a diet. And we know I've said in an episode about a couple of episodes, again, the harmful effects of weight cycling, which is yo yo dieting. And a lot of the effects of yo yo dieting are the similar effects that we see in people with higher weight, things like elevated blood pressure and higher risk of certain things, and that can be put down to weight cycling. It's just not good for us, not good for our physical or mental health. So sometimes you'll see anecdotal evidence, maybe in yourself or in others, that when they lose weight, or when you lose weight, when you've lost weight in the past, your condition is better, seems to improve. And here's that, here's like two. Two sides of that is maybe if you have a smaller body, you're able to do things like tie your shoelace laces because you have less adipose tissue, like, that's a that's just, like, a physical thing. There's less of you, there's less of you to move around to get to your laces. That's, that's just a fact, right? So losing weight could help with being able to do something like, you know, mobility temporarily, and then chances are that you will become bigger than before. And so actually, it's it's worse for mobility, if it's literally just your body is in the way of you performing a task. And the other side is it. Of this is when people engage in dieting. What they often do is engage in things like physical activity, improving their strength, their stamina, eating a variety of foods. Now, these things, independent of weight loss, are beneficial to our health. And so if we take the take out the goal of weight loss, which studies have done that we take out of our goal of weight loss, it shows that health promoting activities are way more sustainable versus if we put weight loss in there as well. And so if two people, one was had the same was eating a variety of foods, was moving, their body was not smoking, you know, whatever. And the same person was doing the exact same thing, but also their goal was to lose weight. That person whose goal is to lose weight will stop the the health promoting behaviors way quicker than the one just doing it, just because they want to improve their health, because weight loss doesn't work. And when the person B sees I'm doing all this stuff, I'm not losing weight anymore. I might have at the beginning, but not anymore. Fuck it. It's not working. Whereas Person A, they're not looking at the way. They can see that actually, if I try and improve my stamina and my strength, turns out my stammering strength improves, you know, because they're not looking at the number on the scale and they're looking at what they can do with their body or how they feel when they eat certain foods. Then they can see the results, and they can say, Oh, wow, this is great, and this is working. But if they were looking at the weight on the scale, they'd be like, this is not working. So you might have that anecdotal evidence of, well, when I'm when I have a smaller body, I just feel better. Well, what are you doing? And also, do you feel better just because it's nicer to be in society when you have a smaller body, there's lots of things going on there. So if you really loved yourself, you would lose weight. I don't know if that is true. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's not true, because I. The two really like, if you love yourself, if you love yourself, you'll you will do. You will try and do what's best for yourself through a lens of compassion. And is it compassionate towards yourself, to diets? My answer to that is No, not really, because it's harmful to my physical and mental health and it doesn't, doesn't make me it doesn't make me thinner or better, and even if it did make me thinner, which is very, very unlikely, that doesn't improve my self love. A lot of times, people on diets, their self love or self esteem or body satisfaction levels go down because they're so focused on their body, what it looks like. So if you still feel like you need to diet because you have a health condition, these are the six things I want you to know. One, if you want to be healthy, that's totally normal. Doesn't make you a bad person. Many people want to be healthy, but we also need to recognize that not everyone can be healthy. And focusing on health physical health too much, and not focusing on mental health or focusing on health in general, too much can be problematic and unhealthy. It's not your fault if you have a fat body, and it's not your fault if you have any type of of health condition, and shaming yourself for that is is going to probably have negative impacts on you, and no matter the reason for wanting to lose weight, your body responds in the same way. So we know these numbers, 95 to 98% of diets fail, and it doesn't matter if you want to lose weight because it just feels better to be smaller, or you have a health condition, or your doctor told you, those stats remain exactly the same. Two thirds of people who go on a diet will gain more weight than they started with. 90% of people who are on a diet display eating disorder, symptoms of an eating disorder, and depending on your size, the higher weight that you are, you have a naught point, naught 8% chance of becoming small and staying that way so it doesn't it doesn't matter if you want to become smaller because you want to run after your kids, or you want to be more athletic, or you want to live longer, there's simply no way to become smaller. But there are ways to become healthy, and if we focus on our health outside of our weight, we are way more likely to maintain those health promoting behaviors that we could engage in. And so at all times, you will have that anecdotal evidence of when I was smaller, I felt better. Well, my question to you is, what were you doing when you were smaller? Were you moving in a certain way? Were you being outside more where you was your mental health improved? Like? What else were you doing at that time that made you feel better, and potentially doing those things outside of trying to lose weight is going to make you feel the same way. So explore that. And if you are in that stumbling block of, I just, I can't move to that, you know, in that that that unlearning fat phobia and body hate journey steps I can't move from three, four to five, and five, which is begins to appreciate like or even love your own fat body, and number six is understand and embody the reality that the issue was never to do with madness, with but with power impression. It could be the health thing, and also it could be that that you're in Constant Learner effect, in Constant Learner mode, and that you're not taking action, and that you were doing things like learning, learning, learning, and you're not doing, doing, doing. So they they, they could be the things that are are keeping you stuck so, all right, well, thank you all for hanging out with me today, and I will see you. On. Oh, hang on, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't go yet. Don't you go. Yeah, reminder, go and sign up for. The how to love your body. Challenge, fiercefatti.com, forward slash challenge, how to love your body. Be in all the photos. Ditch the boring clothes and stop pulling down your top to hide your belly. Gonna have a challenge. It's gonna be amazing. It's happening on May the pull up my calendar, may the May the third, may the third, and it's going to be another. It's March right now, and I'm I'm already working on it, so you know that shit is going to be good. So go. Say No, go. Sign up. It's free. And fitzfight.com forward slash challenge. You can find the link in the show notes, and I'll see you next time. Okay, now you can go all right, I got that.
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